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« Reply #120 on: March 12, 2010, 04:50:05 PM »
Thats so lame......................losers.................................where is the porn????
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« Reply #121 on: March 12, 2010, 08:37:51 PM »
2 layer of heavy vapour barrier and check and see if you can put rigid insulation under the floor ,not sure if you could but would be nice




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« Reply #122 on: March 12, 2010, 11:21:49 PM »
Make sure you put extra rebar in the floor where the two supports for your hoist are.

When my buddy built his garage, he made up threaded anchor plates to set into the floor so he could tie down a car to pull it straight.  Easy to make.  You get some 1" NC nuts and weld 2-3 of them together to make a long nut.  Then weld that to a steel plate.  When the guys pour the floor, put them in place.  Lotsa rebar around them.

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« Reply #123 on: March 13, 2010, 08:12:55 AM »
I put rigid foam insulation panels under the rebar, and had that concrete with fibres added. I'm sure it's common practice, but I had small lines cut to take the stress and if there were going to be cracks they'd happen inside the cuts and not be visible. I have been really pleased with the results as far as cracking and reasonably warm (no heated floor).  I put in 200amp service, and break out 100 to send to the house for mine. I also used scissor trusses as I could only go so high up, and wouldn't have room in the attic for any real storage. The scissor trusses give you easily enough room to stand a sheet of plywood and move around and I can still hang garden furniture in the high points for the winter in the non work area. Make sure to wire for at least 20amp plugs so tools don't keep blowing breakers. The wire, breakers and outlets add a little more expense, but worth the trouble!
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« Reply #124 on: March 13, 2010, 12:43:46 PM »
I used heavy poly and the rigid blue foam insulation (can't recall which order or how thick) and reinforcing mesh, the mesh gave us the bonus of being something to zip tie the heat tubing to so it wouldn't float up during the pour. It's also nice to have it in orderly, evenly spaced lines so you kinda know where it is if you ever need to drill a hole to anchor something down later ;)
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« Reply #125 on: March 18, 2010, 02:11:32 PM »


Found a crew of "little people" to help us frame. They make it look big :o!

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« Reply #126 on: March 18, 2010, 02:35:44 PM »
HAHAHAHAHAHA Your neighbor is gonna $hit!

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« Reply #127 on: March 18, 2010, 05:57:14 PM »
If you went with scissor truss's for the first 5 - 6  trusses from the back you can put up a 10'-12'  loft with a 5'10" or so  loft ceiling height and have a 7' under loft height.  This is what i did in our 10' walled shop.  The extra storage is always needed, and I can almost stand up there.  You would need a wall under it, or a beam and 2 posts to support the floor.

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« Reply #128 on: March 18, 2010, 10:15:24 PM »
If you went with scissor truss's for the first 5 - 6  trusses from the back you can put up a 10'-12'  loft with a 5'10" or so  loft ceiling height and have a 7' under loft height.  This is what i did in our 10' walled shop.  The extra storage is always needed, and I can almost stand up there.  You would need a wall under it, or a beam and 2 posts to support the floor.

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We're using scissor trusses right across. Walls are 12'. We were contemplating some sort of Mezanine or loft. Great ideas.

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« Reply #129 on: March 18, 2010, 10:20:04 PM »
12' thats even better.  You will have a nice loft if you decide to put one up.

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« Reply #130 on: March 19, 2010, 07:51:35 AM »
Ya, I don't think you own enuf cars to justify that  lol_hitting
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« Reply #131 on: March 19, 2010, 07:59:26 AM »
Don't bring up the M word until all the inspectors have left and the permits are signed off. I made that mistake and the result was structural assessments, engineered plans, a second building permit during construction of the shop and a jump in my insurance.  :o
It seems too many people have whipped up quickie lofts in home and strata warehouse shops and then either they or the next tenant overloads them and someone/something gets crushed, so now they get the crap regulated out of them.

The end result is my little Mezzanine is now capable of supporting a knee deep layer of flywheels, but it bumped the cost of the shop by 1/3.
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« Reply #132 on: March 19, 2010, 08:06:07 PM »
Looks good Glad to see you guys and the foundation in person last week  :D

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« Reply #134 on: March 22, 2010, 02:31:45 PM »
I know everyone is a critic, but is that header over the large doorway big enough? Looks only like 2x6's from a distance... just trying to help! :-[
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« Reply #135 on: March 22, 2010, 04:26:44 PM »
I know everyone is a critic, but is that header over the large doorway big enough? Looks only like 2x6's from a distance... just trying to help! :-[

Because its not a bearing wall 2- 2x12 will work well there.  It looks like some of what you see is hidden behind the plywood.  Yup definitly add the mezz after the final inspection with no words mentioned to the inspector.  Thats a very nice size shop.  Kevin

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« Reply #136 on: March 23, 2010, 01:15:42 PM »
I know everyone is a critic, but is that header over the large doorway big enough? Looks only like 2x6's from a distance... just trying to help! :-[

It's 2 ply 2x8, with only the weight of a roof to support (not another floor) that's lots.
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« Reply #137 on: March 23, 2010, 01:28:24 PM »
Actually what looks like a large doorway is a wall that hasn't been framed yet. Doors are 9X8 and 16X8.

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« Reply #138 on: March 23, 2010, 01:49:51 PM »
Ah.... that explains it. I think when I did my garage with scissor trusses, I wanted as much space as possible and put 3- 2x12'' across the doors so I could use an "I-Drive" door opener that didn't require a centre chain or track. That way I only had the side tracks for the door and nothing in the middle. The door opener actually sits right on top of the door.  Looks good Chris, wish I had that height! (I make up for it in length)  :P
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« Reply #140 on: March 25, 2010, 09:15:44 PM »
Fast and awesome how quick can you get it to Salmon Arm  lol_hitting

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« Reply #141 on: April 05, 2010, 08:58:04 AM »

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« Reply #142 on: April 05, 2010, 11:24:33 AM »
Fricken nice shop dude, Once yer up and running you can have all my stuff!!  ;D
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« Reply #143 on: April 05, 2010, 11:26:06 AM »
Awesome garage/shop Chris!   :O0:

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« Reply #144 on: April 05, 2010, 07:54:44 PM »
whats going on the outside .i worry when i see tyvek





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« Reply #145 on: April 05, 2010, 08:39:16 PM »
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« Reply #146 on: April 06, 2010, 06:54:01 AM »
whats going on the outside .i worry when i see tyvek



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« Reply #147 on: April 06, 2010, 07:22:47 AM »
Tyvek is very airtight, it doesn't let the walls breath too well.  I have seen where slits are put into the tyvec to let the walls get better air ( I know doesn't make sence).  Walls need to breath to let the moisture out from the cooling and sweating they do between hot inside and cold outside.  A garage is not so bad like a house is, atleast it will hold the heat with the hardy siding too.  

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« Reply #148 on: April 06, 2010, 10:32:24 AM »
ive heard roumors that the siding will be of blue tarp.... but ya didnt hear it from me!

That's in our five year plan ;)

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Actually... Nice work guys. That is going to be the biggest coolest shop ever!
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« Reply #149 on: April 06, 2010, 11:14:21 PM »
Wow,

Coming in late here.. great shop!!! :o

I wish I could:

1) afford to build that shop

2) get a permit to build that shop

3) buy a time machine (that is another story)

Very nice.
When is the opening party? :D :D

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