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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #120 on: January 26, 2016, 01:32:41 PM »
Only issue swapping to the Porsche 901 was the two lower engine studs. The Volkswagen studs were too short for the Porsche transmission, and I simply cut a new set on the lathe vs buying genuine porsche studs. Find the correct year 911 on Pelican parts, and then find the engine mounting studs. You might need to hit the forum to ask for assistance as in '67 (my year transmission) they were just listed as "engine studs" with a few different lengths. But finding the P-Car studs will tell you the length, which you can then compare to the VW studs. I could have backed the studs out of my engine case to make it all bolt up, but I figure maximum depth was safer.

Switch was something along these lines:
http://www.mroelectronics.com/mro/product.php?id_product=164

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #121 on: January 26, 2016, 01:53:20 PM »
Thanks Dave!

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #122 on: January 28, 2016, 03:37:06 AM »
Dave this is what Pelican came up with sound familiar. Nice description on these parts lol

NLA Guess i need to make my own as well :-)

What did you end up using for material. Stainless or Galvanized Steel. I have available 8.8, 10.9 or 12.0 for the stud grade in steel and in stainless just 8.8 but im not sure if going to a 10.9 or 12 would be helpful or detrimental as the harder the less flex and more chance of Breakage etc.

Its just these 4 studs that hold the engine in place right. SO they hold the weight of my heavy Alu. engine. :-)

Any Ideas?
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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #123 on: January 31, 2016, 03:43:50 PM »
Just the lower two studs, the upper two are bolts and you can buy whatever length & grade that you like. For my lower studs, I bought a set of bolts that were far too long, and used the lathe to trim & thread em. Not sure if we heat-treated them after or not. Possibly, but not scientifically. I wouldn't be overly worried about it. Use the rolled threads in your engine case, and the cut threads on the chassis-side.

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #124 on: January 31, 2016, 05:54:51 PM »
Cool thanks Dave that confirms what I was thinking of doing with the bolts. Means I only need to cut thread on one side :-) I'd prefer stainless but I can only get them in a 8.8 grade :-( and would have liked at least a 10.9 just to make me feel better :-)

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #125 on: January 31, 2016, 06:22:01 PM »
Stainless is probably a bad idea for galvanic corrosion reasons...but that partially depends on how your case is finished.
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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #126 on: February 09, 2016, 11:53:22 PM »
I never thought of Galvanic Corrosion in regards to Alu. and Stainless I know its an issue with water pipes unless its a closed system w/o oxygen. Think I'll go with normal Galvanized steel in that case As i can get them already in a harder grade.

Speaking of engine :-) I got a first picture of my Beauty  Pat said he's just waiting on a fuel pump so he can run it on the Dyno and test it / Tune it. Cant wait to see the results of the set up we went with and to see the final spe sheets :-)
I think I really went over board on it but in the end I think it will suit the car quite nicely.

Was grinning form ear to ear when I received the mail from Pat lol.

So maybe in a week or two it will be in Canada ready for install and test fitting it in the car before the whole rolling car goes off for paint.

Cheers René
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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #127 on: February 10, 2016, 07:41:09 AM »
wow, that's quite the engine
looks killer

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #128 on: February 10, 2016, 08:05:41 AM »
It looks like the bottom pulley is smaller than stock.  If so, it won't work.  You need at least the stock size pulley for maximum cooling.

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #129 on: February 10, 2016, 08:46:26 AM »
Thanks Russ I'm excited about it. Perfect fit for this Car I think. Little over the top but I think we did that in most corners on this car. Defiantly in regards to the People working on her Russ :-)

It just looks like that Bruce because of the Crank sensor ring thats mounted to the bottom Crank Pulley. Its the Stock Size Pulley and Pat convinced me of not going with a serp. system because of throwing belts and not enough slippage at higher rpm's. Otherwise we would have run a Serp. Belt system. Cooling shouldn't be to much of an issue as we added dual oil coolers. Didn't over do it on our Head selection and Plan on running E85 as the main fuel in this Baby's Bottle.

Pat Did a great job on it I think. I'll Post a Clip or a link to the clip as soon as its been on the Dyno :-)

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #130 on: February 10, 2016, 08:57:13 AM »
Dave I think Pelican screwed up on the info they sent me.
According to them its only 69mm long a stock beetle Stud is longer than that (82mm). However don't they make a set of longer studs for when guys upgrade to Bus Transaxles. 100mm long grade 8.8 is wha they are listed at. could that be ev. the right length? Guess I gotta do some more digging in Porsche Forums to see if I can find more info. There is a Aftermarket supplier that lists something like a stud set for upgrading engines to a 901/914/915 etc. unfortunately they don't tell you the stud lengths and 40US for 2x 5 dollar studs is over kill I think lol.


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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #131 on: February 10, 2016, 11:07:44 AM »
Well, I'm not sure for a 915 trans? AND, to make matters more fun, I have an EARLY 901 box (different bell housing shape to the more common one) so it could be just mine is weird.

My motor is out on the floor though, so I can measure the length of my studs for you.

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #132 on: February 10, 2016, 12:51:46 PM »
That would be a great help Dave thanks. It would be at least a good starting point. I like your release bearing upgrade! Should have been what I did as well. It's a nice Clean set up for sure.

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #133 on: February 18, 2016, 04:30:21 AM »
I wrote Pelican back and told them that can't be right ones and they said they have one other listing for the turbo cars m10 x 122mm long. I ordered those, pricy for studs at 6.50usd a piece I thought but cheep we than if I spent the time to make them myself. I'm hoping that they are now the right ones. I can't imagine that they would be much longer than that the bug engine to bus Trany conversion studs are only 100mm I think Ive got the right listing this time. Otherwise if to long then it's cut to length and tap some thread on them.

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #134 on: February 18, 2016, 01:28:37 PM »
A short up date .

Engine on its way yahoo!! Final Dyno pull had a peek HP at 215 - 6300rpm with almost 200lbs torque. But she should have a bit more in her after she is broke in and has the final tune done in the car Pat said :-) got a great deal on freight surprised all of us. So yahoo soon we can start with paint :-)
And she is running real cool he said with the E85 in her.

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #135 on: February 18, 2016, 02:34:56 PM »
awesome glad to hear.
shipping right to Canada?

the US dollar is crippling right now anytime I buy something:(

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #136 on: February 18, 2016, 10:10:21 PM »
Yah the exchange rate in that sense sucks but for me it's ok right now Swiss Frank to USD is about 1-1 which is not bad. And shipping was straight to Geoff with crating fees and a lift gate truck.

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #137 on: March 03, 2016, 01:32:50 PM »
Anyone know of a good or better option for adding a passengerside rearview mirror. I have a set of baby turbo mirrors but don't know if they look that great when mounted in a manner that they are actually useful. Any suggestions?

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #138 on: March 14, 2016, 02:30:43 PM »
It's funny how a little bit custom can so quickly go way over board to full custom. Lol

Car up date it will be going out for paint this weekend :-)

Engine caused A few aches and pains because of all that custom lol.

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #139 on: March 14, 2016, 03:28:37 PM »
very cool, paint is always fun times
Don still doing it?

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #140 on: March 14, 2016, 09:00:54 PM »
Have a look here for mirrors, The top one is cool.

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=MIRRORSVINT

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #141 on: March 14, 2016, 09:52:59 PM »
Yes Sir Don is still the Man for the paint job. Fair price and From what I've seen in pictures top notch quality. Your car turned out great from what I can see In pictures Russ! Can't wait to See it in person this summer!

Thanks for the suggestion G! Bruce helped me out in the mean time guess I should have mentioned that.

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #142 on: March 17, 2016, 09:14:54 PM »
Car up date it will be going out for paint this weekend :-)

right on! another very exciting part of the build process!!

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #143 on: May 29, 2016, 07:14:50 AM »
I have some Prep work pictures i can post. Colour should be on her soon.

The old Tar Board clips being removed

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #144 on: May 29, 2016, 07:16:33 AM »
here some old pictures of her on the way off to Don

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #145 on: May 29, 2016, 07:17:38 AM »
Again old pictures.

Fenders and trailer

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #146 on: May 29, 2016, 07:18:55 AM »
last of the old before pick up

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #147 on: May 29, 2016, 07:32:24 AM »
some more current pictures of the final prep for premiering

wheel well areas

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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #148 on: May 29, 2016, 07:33:46 AM »
more wheel well, last one snuck in a engine bay pic as well lol
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Re: "Cutie" a 18 year old project and counting
« Reply #149 on: May 29, 2016, 07:35:12 AM »
rear wheel wells